1. Say us something about your beginnings. You weren't anywhere to listen before... and suddenly you appeared on Myspace, you put 3 great pieces up and... what was before, tell me guys.

Lucid dreaM: We started as two teenagers playing for fun. First, we concentrated on a dirty punkrock. We created a few projects back then, among others ‘Działa Nawalony’(means more or less something like Drunks of Navarone) and ‘Komitet’(Committee). This period wasn't long, but brought some interesting works. We understood quite quickly that punk music as a cultural phenomenon is (long) over, and it's communicating possibilities are limited and inadequate to today's world. The only project which remained from that period is ‘Cerkiewna Vagina Matki Rachmaninowa’ (Orthodox Vagina of Rakhmaninov’s Mother) which we try to continue for fun. Later we were fascinated with blues and jazz, we also got very influenced by musicals. Slowly, we began to open on different sounds and discover music around us. It is more or less how Lucid dreaM arose, the project to explore the weirdest aspects of the human nature and it's connection to the reality;) Everything that surrounds us comes from our mind, every sound is a reflection of our nature then. Lucid dreaM is not only about music, it is also a sequence of experiments on our own psychic, leading to discovering some truth, if there is any of course. And because it is experiment, Lucid dreaM changes all the time, flows, and that's it's main presupposition. We're still searching for something new and we don't seriously know if we take a right or wrong path, but it is what is experimenting about after all.

If we speak of Myspace, it was more a coincidence we appeared there. We’re never completely satisfied with effects of our work. We allowed to persuade ourselves to create the page though, we uploaded 3 current compositions and we're glad there are reactions for these. We're going to continue the adventure with Myspace then.




2. So, I understand, you consider yourself as a experimental project? Do you feel to be a part of some music scene? Industrial, experimental, or any other? People like to label others, also music, movies and any other art. How is it with you?

LD: We do not accept any segregation on 'scenes'. We listen to many kinds of music, from metal, through blues, rock and punk, industrial, hardcore, electro, folk, to the classic. As the recipients, we don't spell with any 'scene', we're thinking that music may be valuable, labels independent.

Vesen: When we're creating, we don't think: "hmmm, maybe we'll change a sound here and there, so they'll throw us to the neofolk scene and it will be coooool, because people apparently listen to that right now". If someone limit themselves with full force to one, so called 'scene', then fuck them. Somebody who has some pointful picture of their own music, always will find themselves, no matter where they land.


3. You're an exception in our country in my humble opinion. I didn't ever listened to any other project creating such sounds. You abscond any labels and your tunes fill the gap in our vernacular - let's call it - industrial music.

LD: Hmmm, yeah, we didn't meet any similar group neither and maybe that's why we don't rank to any stream:) which makes us happy by the way.


4. I perfectly understand... so next question is a bit related to this what you already said. Do you believe there is some kind of bound between people which experience the superficially different but carrying a similar emotions sounds likewise? I mean some kind music genre which isn't precisely a genre, more like some mental liaison of like-minded people.

LD: Nietzsche (yeah, he's a basis:)) said something like: "Wisdom is a whisper of a loner to himself on the noisy market". We think that people can be bounded by the fact of looking for something in themselves, this whisper of a loner. It might be different for each one, but we guess it is possible to sense if somebody felt such a need, achieved such a wisdom and we appreciate it. This way we can communicate with people who have other outlooks, so we appreciate groups playing different music. We love Joanna Newsom, but we won't play like she does, our whisper is completely different. This, what counts, is the fact that she discovered her, same we try to discover ours. We think there may be kind of understanding beyond apparent differences.




5. We flied into abstract a bit and theory of the music movements ;)... I'd like to ask you about your recent music discoveries then. Which projects impressed you mostly?

Vesen: I was lately enjoying Kid606 a bit, Divine Muzak destroyed me, I can't stop listening to them… And AIT! of course… Moreover I noticed Cultural Amnesia thanks to someone... And Billy Mallery maybe, really great foraging sometimes... Many interesting bands from Myspace: Black Noise Acetato, Blood Jewel, POLYMOPHIK SKYZOPHRENIA, or The Surreal Funfair, but I know them too little to make my full opinion.

Jaakko: Me personally, as the one more to the ground (but not always literally), I'm listening more to the standards. My inspirations are Clint Mansell, Danny Elfman and ‘Lacrimosa’ for example, also Edgar Varese as one of the sparses, who can calm my "tormented fibres" down. If we speak about the newest discoveries, we can't forget ‘Tiger Lillies’, I didn't know them until not so long ago, now I allow them to destroy myself in regular bases;)

Vesen: Here I endorse too. ‘Tiger Lillies’ are also for me a very interesting "discovery";)


6. There was not much to hear about you recently. You didn't pay much attention to promotion, did you? :) There was nothing about you to read in webzines, nowhere. And suddenly "click" and you're here. A piece on a great ‘Nonpop’ compilation, hella good tracks on Myspace... I hope it will burst into bloom.

LD: We got the proposition from Roy from Nonpop magazine to put "Magnolia" up, it was quite nice, we agreed without a question. We definitely plan to evolve Myspace page. We didn't degree before, we played for pleasure. Now it is similar, but by some strange coincidents there are people, who want to help coming to us. It is quite new, all were more against us before.

And this all isn't any "click" for us, it is a few years of cooperation, not only musical, we also tuned as people to each other, we maturated and tried to understand ourselves. Now we're going deeper into it, trying also to show this path to the others. Not as an instruction, more as a possibility. We believe that we can recover our consciousness in reality, same as in a dream. We try to achieve it mainly through the music, but there are many ways... pathos go away...




7. Basic question: When the next tracks? Are you composing something? Can we await something soon? What climate? Will you look for a label? And what about your older productions? Is there any chance we'll listen to them, or these will rather stay in your archive forever?

LD: We're strongly limited by the time, as to composing – every time something new comes out, this is a permanent improvisation. When we meet, we have new ideas. We have quite a big base of already recorded tracks, which for different reasons didn't come into the sunlight so far. We are recording live and it is hard to control the quality under such conditions. We don't want to publish something what is bad by accident, not intentionally. According to our memo we allow the random elements to come out, these have their place, are important, but we don't want them to distort our current ideas entirely.

What is it searching the editor about? Of course we'd like our music to be placed on more material medium than Myspace;) We're currently working on a new stuff and if one day somebody will find it is worth publishing, he will do that then.

We're going to record and publish some of our older tracks. What about new compositions? We have no idea, we'll see what will happen. It is quite possible the atmosphere will be similar to "Magnolia", although we plan to record something more energetic too. If we'll decide to publish older pieces, it won't be surely under the name of LD. And about the future projects, we have many various ideas, seeds, but what comes out of these, only the time can show. We always start with some idea, we have point of departure and we start to play, but where this playing will bring us, that's an other story.




8. A simple and short question now. Answer yourselves, why the Lucid dreaM exists? Is it some form of “katharsis”, a valve for negative emotions, or maybe just a hobby, nice way to spend your time?

Jaakko: Everything you have mentioned is partially true somehow, I guess. Whether playing wasn’t fun and didn’t give us satisfaction, we wouldn’t do it. The word “hobby”, however, I find inadequate, it brings collecting coins or pinning up butterflies to my mind. For sure playing is kind of way of releasing hidden emotions, however, again, calling it “katharsis” is too pompous in my opinion. Anyhow, if listening to music can make you relaxed, and helps to get rid of negative emotions in general, then act of creation music is a far more powerful. Especially when we mean music being a combination of chaos and improvisation;)

Vesen: Nothing to add. Generally speaking, I treat LD as a safety valve on one side, on the other one I'm striving to more and more "sick" situations, to make the material that justifies the existence of such a valve.


9. Oh, you have the last words then... let's call it summary, the last wish, a marketing action... whatever... do you care that someone listens to your music, if you're recommend it here? Many artists say they're creating only for themselves. Isn't that kinda paradox? And thank you for your time and music by the way... Lucid dreaM deserves much of support.

Vesen: If they'd create only for themselves they wouldn't need to talk about this as none would have heard/read/… their creations, correct me, if I'm making some logical mistake. Let me tell it this way, i guess it is the best explanation for our project: Bill Hicks was often saying "it's just a ride". All of this is a big joke. I read somewhere: "if they don't get the joke, fuck'em". I could tell now, that I'm a big artist, nobody understands me, I’m creating only for myself, I adore revolution, I have deep down if someone will read this and I'm fighting against the commercial (whatever this spooky word means) shit all my life long. But well, I want people to listen to LD, I want them to try to understand me, I want someone to read it and I'm amused by all the people who can't get the joke which the reality in fact is. Thank you very much for your support.

Jaakko: Yep, we have already dealt with performing the major nonconformists in our former punk projects;) Seriously, we’re glad that our music is getting noticed. It is the meaningful step for our project, and somehow for ourselves, to achieve progress. I hope there are people that find our further compositions interesting and valuable, no matter which form it will get in the future. Nice talking to you, thanks again for support.



Tomasz Borowski



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